DEFENDANTS-APPELLANTS  REPLY CHALLENGE TO

                    PLAINTIFF-RESPONDENT'S ARGUMENT
                                POINT IV
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            CPLR 5019 (a) ALLOWS FOR AN ORDER TO BE AMENDED
               WITHOUT THE FORMALITIES OF A MOTION WHEN
              THAT ORDER CONTAINS AN ERROR WHICH DOES NOT
                 AFFECT A SUBSTANTIAL RIGHT OF A PARTY
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                        their stated caption:

        Under Respondent's own caption which reads "..not affecting a
    substantial right of the party..." and that Defendants suffered more
    than a substantial right, as shown below as Plaintiff attempts to
    hide under CPLR 5019 (a) to avoid having had to file a proper
    motion.

        Defendants-Appellants submit the following rules:

            "CPLR 5019 permits the court to correct or cure ministerial
            mistakes, defects or irregularities which do not effect
            substantial rights of the parties. Haggerty v. Market Basket
            Enterprises, Inc., 8 A.D.3d 618 (2 Dept. 2004).  See also,
            Herpe v. Herpe, 225ndN.Y. 323 (1919).

        In Siegel, New York Practice 4 Section 420, makes it perfectly
    clear as stated:  "CPLR 5019 is not designed to permit the court to
    exercise discretion or make new findings of fact."  And that is
    exactly what was done.  The Amended Decision and Order completely
    changed and eliminated findings of fact from the Original Decision
    and Order that constituted a major change against Defendants by
    shifting $150,000.00 that the Lower Court said was consolidated, and
    prejudiced Defendants by that that amount.  Plaintiff- Respondents
    have claimed that their perceived "error" was "merely" "de minimus"
    in several affidavits, which cannot rise to the level requiring
    judicial intervention.  By Plaintiff's own admissions, there really
    was a motion to notify the Lower Court to amend the original
    decision as Plaintiff's Brief states for the Preliminary Statment
    that shows:

            "Judge O'Rourke signed the amended decision and order
            on August 27, 2007.  (R. at A-19 - A-22).  That order
            granted the exact same relief as the previous order."

        This admission that Plaintiff was granted relief by the new
    order, speaks for its self.  Plaintiff clearly was seeking relief
    from a law of the case Decision and Order, and wanted to be relieved
    of its findings of fact.  And this kind of relief can only be
    granted by way of a motion.

        Additional prejudice against Defendants by the Amended Decision
    by way of the the illegal motion, prevented Defendants due process
    of law to challenge Plaintiffs request via a proper CPLR 2221 motion
    to reargue, including a cross challange asserting laches.

        Plaintiff-Respondents' Brief makes vague and deceiptful
    statements of their pure opinion that the letter was not a motion,
    to even stating what Judge O'Rourke was thinking.

            "Judge O'Rourke surely weighed their opinions and decided
            that the clarification was minor and did not affect a
            substantial right of either party."
            (Respondent's Brief, page 19 paragraph 2)

        Nowhere in their letter or in any of their affidavits or Brief,
    did Plaintiff attempt to explain the dropping of the critical
    statements as detailed in Defendants-Appellants Brief at POINT VII
    at page 23.

            "Here, correction of the clerical eror in the April 27,
            2007 order did not affect the substantial right of
            either party.  The letter that Wells Fargo's counsel sent
            to Judge O'Rourke  was not a motion. (R. at A-308)  It
            was routine correspondence sent to clarify a mistake.
            (Respondent's Brief, page 19 paragraph 1)

        If this constitutes "routine correspondence", and the Amended
    Decision based merely on a letter sent by a legal assistant, then no
    decision is safe in the Second Department after the 30 day notice of
    entry has been filed (as Plaintiff did), and the law and decisions
    become merely a suggestion for someone to make major alterations.
    This activity clouds and undermines the entire legal system,
    and cannot be allowed to stand.

        Plaintiff-Respondents' following statement is a complete lie:

            "It made no argument and it requested no relief other than
            which had already been granted.  ... Moreover, the
            Websters actually responded to the letter (R. at A-288 -
            A-289)  They had an opportunity to voice their opinion
            regarding the clarification of a detail in the original
            decision and order."
            (Respondent's Brief, page 19 paragraph 2)

        Changing a Decision that was the law of the case as presented in
    Plaintiffs's Brief that the letter "requested no relief other than
    which had already had been granted" is totally false, as it involved
    the shifting of $150,000.00 in Plaintiff's favor, by the dropping of
    findings of fact, and major alterations to other statements.

        And how would Plaintiff, or the attorneys know whether Judge
    O'Rourke "surely weighed" Defendants-Appellants "opinions" or not
    without ex parte communications, which Defendants asserted in their
    faxed letter strenously objecting to the request of the Plaintiff's
    letter, clearly a motion.

            "In New York, it is well settled that "[c]lerical errors
            or a mistake in the entry of a judgemenmt or the omission
            of a right to relief to which a party is entitled as a
            matter of course may alone be corrected by the trial
            court through an amendment."

        Defendants agree with the above that Plaintiff-Respondent's cite
    "... may alone be corrected by the trial court through an amendment"
    which requires the filing of a motion (see Siegal on motions to
    amend).  Judge O'Rourke never even made a sua sponte motion, or
    confirmed or stated that a clerical error was the reason for his
    signing Plaintiff's own created and authored Amended Decision and
    Order.

        Defendants-Appellants' rights were clearly and substantially
    violated by the request sent to Court Chambers by a mere legal
    assistant, Sherri Beals.

        Defendants-Appellants' letter in opposition, (R. A-289) clearly
    stated regarding Plaintiffs own Amended Decision "Had your Decision
    held otherwise, we would have appealed it on various grounds based
    upon the documents we presented to this Honorable Court in our
    Affidavits in support of our Cross Motion and in Reply. ... The
    instant informal motion by Plaintiff is not a mere ''correction''
    but a major challenge to the findings of the Court."

        Defendants-Appellants clearly show in their Brief for POINTs VII
    (page 23) that Plaintiff's letter to Amended Decision and Order was
    clearly a motion, POINT VIII (page 25) that Plaintiff's claim of a
    "de minimus" error did not rise to the level requiring judicial
    intervention, and that in POINTS IX (page 27), X (page 28), XI (page
    30), and  XII (page 31) that the Amended Decision violated
    substantial rights of Defendants-Appellants in violation of CPLR
    5019 (a), and that in POINT XIII the Lower Court completely ignored
    the doctrine of starre decisis (page 33).

        Because Plaintiff and the Lower Court violated Defendants rights
    by not following the rules of the CPLR, that Defendants were denied
    a defense of laches, and cite the following:

            "Finally, we note that laches of a party making an
            application for relief under CPLR 5019(a) may always be
            considered. In this case, however, plaintiff has made no
            showing of prejudice attributable to the delay of the County
            in seeking to correct this error."
            (85 N.Y.2d 879, 649 N.E.2d 1199, 626 N.Y.S.2d 55 (1995).    rch 23,

        Plaintiff-Respondents' failure to clearly state the true nature
    and need to change the original Decision, and additionally witheld
    the obvious prejudice its request was against Defendants-
    Appellants.  And it is totally false where their Brief states "As
    mentioned before, the orders grant the exact same relief".  If this
    was true, Plaintiff would have had no reason to seek the relief
    whatsoever.

        Additionally according to Siegal Section 253 "Motions Affecting
    Prior Order which states:  "Many kinds of motions qualify as motions
    ''affecting'' a prior order.  Specifically included in CPLR 2221 are
    motions to renew or reargue the prior motion, or to stay, vacate or
    modify the order entered on it..."

        Defendants-Appellants direct the Court to their Brief for the
    Points stated above, and this Court should, at the very least,
    vacate or overturn the Amended Decision and Order, in order
    to protect the integrity of the legal system, starre decisis,
    and the law of the case from future case law cites.


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