DEFENDANTS-APPELLANTS  REPLY CHALLENGE TO

                    PLAINTIFF-RESPONDENT'S ARGUMENT
                                POINT II
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                  WELLS FARGO HAS PROPER STANDING TO
              BRING THIS ACTION BECAUSE IT IS THE HOLDER
                       OF THE CONSOLIDATED LOAN
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                        their stated caption:

        Plaintiff-Respondent uses the play on words switching between
    consolidated loan and consolidated mortgage, and only a mortgage
    secures an interest in property to support a foreclosure action.
    Plaintiff-Respondent agrees with this as stated in their Brief
    for POINT I, page 10 paragraph 2 where they state "The consolidated
    mortgage gave Wells Fargo rights in the property located at..."

        Plaintiff's foreclosure action is purely based upon the 1995
    $162,000,00 mortgage, and nowhere has Plaintiff shown a consolidated
    mortgage, or that Plaintiff filed a consolidated mortgage and paid a
    mortgage tax for such a filing.

        All the exhibits and Affidavits submitted by Plaintiff clearly
    show that this foreclosure action is upon the 1995 Mortgage, and
    their following statements to this Court are false, such as:

            "Contrary to the Webster's assertion, Wells Fargo is not
            foreclosing on the 1995 loan.  Wells Fargo is foreclosing
            on the consolidated loan, for which it was the original
            lender."
            (Plaintiff-Respondent's Brief, page 12 3rd paragraph)

            "Wells Fargo also is the plaintiff in this action.
            A lender who holds the note and mortgage is the
            proper plaintiff in a foreclosure action."
            (Plaintiff-Respondent's Brief, page 12 4th paragraph)

        Again, Plaintiff-Respondents never claimed or swore that they
    held the original signed note and mortgage for the 1995 Mortgage
    prior to the filing of the Complaint.  Plaintiff's Brief further
    states:

            "The Websters take issue with the assignment of the
            1995 loan from MERS as nominee for Wells Fargo Home
            Mortgage, Inc. to Wells Fargo ... because it was executed
            and recorded after the complaint was filed.  As a result
            of this, the Websters argue, Wells Fargo does not have
            standing to bring this action.  Even if Wells Fargo
            was foreclosing on the 1995 loan, which it is not..."
            (Plaintiff-Respondent's Brief, page 13 2nd paragraph)

        Again, this is not true, they clearly are suing on the 1995
    mortgage, as is presented in Defendants-Appellants' Brief - see
    Point V page 2.  Plaintiff did not file a foreclosure on the
    consolidated mortgage, which it witheld from the Lower Court.
    Defendants submitted the consolidted mortgage as an exhibit in their
    Cross Motion (R. A-194 - A-213)

        On Plaintiff-Respondent's Brief, page 13 4th paragraph states:

            "Under New York law, an assignee of a mortgage is the
            proper party to bring a foreclosure action when the
            assignment, though executed and recorded after the date
            of the action was commenced, was dated retroactively
            to a date before commencement of the action, provided
            that the assignee had possession of the note and
            mortgage before the complaint was filed."

        Respondents submit and cite in the Deutsche Bank and Trust Co. v
    Peabody, that:

            "There, the court interperted Bankers Trust co. as requiring
            physical possession of the note and mortgage prior to the
            filing of the complaint and retroactively dated assignment.
            The court held that ''[a] retroactive effective date for a
            written mortgage is valid provided...the note and mortgage
            were previously physically delivered to the assignee."

        Defendants-Appellants draw the Court's attention to the case
    cited in Respondent's Brief in "Deutsche Bank Trust Co.  v Peabody
    that was decided as recently as June 6, 2008, from the Supreme Court
    of Saratoga County, that has not been affirmed by any appellate
    review, and is merely a decision of a concurrent court, and is not
    controlling case at this appellate level.

        Again, nowhere in any of Respondent's Affidavits or exhibits,
    does Plaintiff ever make a showing or sworn statement that they held
    in their POSSESSION the 1995 Mortgage being foreclosed upon and only
    submitted the 2005 gap mortgage for $380,346.00 (R. A-107 - A-133)
    at time of filing the Complaint.  Nowhere in Respondent's Brief do
    they show that in any of the Indexed Record that they claim that
    they had possession.

        There is no credible evidence to support Respondent's claim that
    it held in its possession the 1995 $162,000.00 mortgage prior to
    filing the foreclosure action, no credible evidence that Respondent
    even held the 2005 $380,346.31 in its possession at the time of
    filing the foreclosure, or that it actually held in its possession
    of the 2005 consolidated mortgage, and therefore Respondent's vague
    claim that it had met the requirements in their carefully cited
    cases must fail for lack of positive and conclusive proof.

        The Notice of Pendens (R. A-43) filed by Plaintiff never
    mentions a "consolidated mortgage" and no mortgage tax was ever paid
    by Plaintiff for a consolidated mortgage.  In a letter written by
    Wells Fargo's own closing attorney, Dominick Penzetta dated August
    13, 2007, in responding to Appellants request for various answers
    he states:

            "If the Exhibit D were indeed an additional mortgage
            as you had understood it, then you would have not only
            paid the mortgage tax on the new money mortgage, by
            also paid a mortgage tax on ... That did not happen.
            A county clerk will not record a mortgage without
            receiving mortgage tax.  Exhibit D is not an actual
            mortgage."

        This letter was not put into the record as it had not been a
    part of the litigation before the Lower Court.  Appellants have now
    attached it to the end of our Reply Brief, as Respondents have never
    up to this point, or ever claimed to be foreclosing on the
    Consolidated Mortgage which Appellants had been originally lured
    into believing to be the only true mortgage, and the reason for
    asserting a defense of fraud in the answer to the foreclosure
    complaint.

        Additionally, it was this letter which triggered Respondents'
    request to the Lower Court to amend the law of the case original
    Decision and Order, a few days later.

        It is clear from the above, and the papers submitted by
    Plaintiff, that they clearly never had the 1995 Mortgage in their
    actual possession when they filed the Complaint.  Actually they have
    not even asserted in any of their submitted papers that they still
    have the 2005 $380,346.31 mortgage still in their possession, or the
    original of the consolidated mortgage still in their possession.
    Common knowledge in the subprime lending market is that many,
    perhaps as much as 50% of mortgages, have been bundeled and sold on
    the market as "securities" by many of the lenders.

        Lastly on this subject Respondent's Brief page 16, paragraph 2,
    they make the incredible statement "... the 1995 loan was assigned
    to MERS as nominee for Wells Fargo Home Mortgage, Inc. in 2001.  In
    or around 2004, and long before this action was commenced, Wells
    Fargo Home Mortgage, Inc. merged with Wells Fargo. (R.  at A-102).
    At that point in time, Wells Fargo became the successor by merger to
    Wells Fargo Home Mortgage, Inc., and became the holder of the 1995
    loan."  If that statement was true, then there would have been no
    need for the assignment filed January 10, 2007, that was backdated
    to December 1, 2006 and notarized December 20, 2006, after the
    filing of the Complaint.

        Clearly, Plaintiff-Respondent has not proven that it was the
    acutal holder of the original signed 1995 mortgage being sued upon,
    and that Plaintiff's totally untrue statement on their POINT I, page
    11, paragraph 1 which states "The consolidated mortgage was recorded
    in the Putnam County Clerk's Office on June 20, 2005 (R. A-94 -
    A-142)." This is false, Plaintiff never recorded the consolidated
    mortgage with the County Clerk, nor did they pay a mortgage tax, so
    no matter which mortgage Plaintiff pleads, Plaintiff therefore never
    achieved standing, ab initio.



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